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Infinite Range with Ecat SKL "Cold Fusion" Cell

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John K

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If perpetual motion is a device where "more energy is extracted than put in" then wouldn't nuclear energy be such a thing?

Most of our tech is run by machines that produce more energy over their lifetime than we used to make them. For all intents and purposes solar power over eons is perpetual motion, and we've harnessed it since the beginning of our existence.

The first law f thermodynamics states that all energy already exists in a closed system and cannot be created or destroyed. Isn't that by definition perpetual energy, if the energy must continueto exist in one form or another? The question is only how we can make it useable.

Something to think about. ?
Short answer: No
 
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Cyberman

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We have an effectively infinite power source available. We just need to build more collectors to convert it to useful power.

Literally Teslas mission.
Correct. Well, power for the next 5 billion years or so, anyway, then we'll be on the look for a new sun, planet, solar system.
 
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Dids

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Even a solar panel needs a battery to power something.

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-Crissa
Sure, because gravitational compression radiation collectors are intermittent. But zero point is lightening in a bottle. The battery is existence itself. Why charge a battery if you have a device to tap the energy of the battery of existence? Just build a bigger tap if you require a higher flow.
 

Kahpernicus

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If perpetual motion is a device where "more energy is extracted than put in" then wouldn't nuclear energy be such a thing?
A perpetual motion machine does not extract more energy than put in. It preserves all energy put in at the beginning, indefinitely.


Most of our tech is run by machines that produce more energy over their lifetime than we used to make them. For all intents and purposes solar power over eons is perpetual motion, and we've harnessed it since the beginning of our existence.
No. Extracting the energy from solar is very inefficient as of now.

You're conflating two things. The energy used to create a machine that extracts energy from a source is not creating any energy.

The first law f thermodynamics states that all energy already exists in a closed system and cannot be created or destroyed. Isn't that by definition perpetual energy, if the energy must continueto exist in one form or another? The question is only how we can make it useable.

Something to think about. ?

Correct, all that energy goes somewhere. It's usually in the form of heat.

Which is what solar heat pumps do.
 
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Crissa

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Sure, because gravitational compression radiation collectors are intermittent. But zero point is lightening in a bottle. The battery is existence itself. Why charge a battery if you have a device to tap the energy of the battery of existence? Just build a bigger tap if you require a higher flow.
What happens to the electronics when you try to shove too much potential through it?

-Crissa
 
 
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